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j_young_80
16-11-2009, 02:33 PM
Here's a common situation that can easily result in annoyed motorists and dangerous driving if handled the wrong way:



A number of cars have rolled past you and now they're stopped at a red light. You have 2 choices:

You can stop behind the last car, move forward when it does -- and maybe get caught by the light again, losing another couple of minutes.


You can ride up the edge of the road to the front of the line, passing all the cars that just passed you.

We're as guilty as the next roadie of making the second choice, even though passing like this is unsafe if not illegal. (We're talking about roads without wide shoulders or bike lanes.)



Now at the front of the line again, you have 2 more choices when the light turns green:

You can push off immediately and resume riding.


You can stand still to let the drivers move ahead or turn in front or you, then go before the green light changes.

To ensure peace on Earth, the second way is recommended. Because if you don't let the traffic go, you'll be forcing each driver to pass you a second time.



Trade places with one of them. He just managed to get around you, and now you're in front of him again. He was considerate once but got nothing in return. Maybe this time he'll use the horn and squeeze past. Maybe he'll swerve and cut in to "teach you a lesson."



If you want a guaranteed hassle, leave first again at the third light.



We're not saying to ride meekly. We're saying to ride smartly in this situation by not riding at all for a few seconds.

SSSimon
16-11-2009, 07:54 PM
That's why cycle lanes are so nice!

Be the last person to the front, time your run perfectly so you get there just as the lights turn green and be the first one across the intersection, perfect.

Actually, I love doing this, not at lights, but at traffic jams around schools. Motorists sometimes bust a gut to overtake you by doing 50 in a 40 zone just the get on the back of a long line of cars waiting at the next intersection - whilst the meek cyclist just rides through it all unaffected by any holdups doing the normal average speed day in day out school or no school.

It's always more pleasant on the roads when there's no school.

MatthewL
17-11-2009, 04:18 PM
Actually, it's much more pleasant at school when there's no school!!

SimonD
17-11-2009, 04:21 PM
This is actually good advice. A pissed off driver is a dangerous driver. I think Scarano got hit in this exact situation.

Gotta watch the left turning traffic when you zip up those bike lanes!

faema
23-11-2009, 08:47 PM
Making drivers pass you twice is a bad move, but I am just as worried about the increasing amount of Shoaling (http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2009-10-27T12:11:00-04:00&max-results=7) going on in Canberra.

Steven
23-11-2009, 09:12 PM
Dunno about shoaling. Actually I couldn't give a rat's arse about who "shoals" who, or how often traffic overtakes me or vice-versa. Such fine points of etiquette are lost in the context of motorists completely ignoring Australia Road Rules and cycleway-hogging pedestrians begging for a slap to the back of the head.

But his story on wheel pricing (http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2009/10/blows-to-hed-price-is-blah.html) was informative and amusing (as you know, I'm a fan of throw-away $250 Halo and $300 Khamsin wheelsets).

faema
23-11-2009, 09:25 PM
If we give up on these fine points of etiquette society will surely decay into anarchy!

Next you will be telling me that things such as the, correct sock height, exact bar tape wrapping style (and colour i.e. white only) and sunglasses placement are not important.

Steven
23-11-2009, 09:42 PM
Sunglasses must be worn on over your helmet straps to qualify as Euro Cool. But last I heard, CA weren't enforcing that one.

Simonsky
24-11-2009, 06:45 AM
Haven't hear the term shoaling before, but it's a good description. I've fallen victim to that many times and have tended to lose my patience after having to re-pass the same person four times after they push in front of me at the lights.

(Warning to any persistent shoalers I have ridden track and know how to use my elbows and shoulders when polite reminders don't work.)

j_young_80
24-11-2009, 07:05 AM
Yeah i've definitely been Shoaled - Northbourne is the worst for it. I don't know if it's my unshaven legs, ginger Mo' or general aura of being a crap cyclist but I get guys jumping in front of me even when i've attempted to block half the lane to prevent it. Spending the next 100 -200 metres trying to pass some guy who has knicks you could sift flour through* is not my idea of fun.

*credit to Mark S for the call

SimonD
24-11-2009, 07:08 AM
SHOALING. It has a name! Happened to me over and over in peak hour Melbourne!

bosworth*
24-11-2009, 09:08 AM
I'm surprised you cycling boffins have never heard of the team shoaling.

That said, I usually ask before shoaling, draft off anyone who shoals me who is reasonably fast, and stop in the right hand side of the bike lane if I want to prevent being shoaled.

j_young_80
24-11-2009, 10:30 AM
This was the post below on the Bike Snob forum too - i'm sure it's an offcast from the "People of Wal Mart" emails going around but still - you see him rolling, you hatin'

There's actually a bloke who i'd see regularly on Adelaide Ave that has a bookstand on his bike and would appear to be reading on the way in. Anyone seen this guy lately?

Bean
24-11-2009, 10:40 AM
Not lately but I have seen him. He's a freakin' goose!